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Interview with Chief Master Taejoon Lee – Part II

Wednesday, June 18th, 2008

Thirty years into his teaching career, Susuk Kwanjangnim is working on many fronts to spread the benefits of Hwa Rang Do to the public. This is the second part of our interview with Master Lee, bringing to a close this glimpse into how and why he works. (for part one, see Chief Master Lee Interview Part I)

KCC: From the 30 years of teaching, what are some of your discoveries, experiences, and understandings of being human?

CML: Wow, that’s a loaded question. Let me see how I can best answer that. First off, I am grateful and feel blessed for having the opportunity to have come across so many diverse people of all walks of life, culture, and nations. Literally I have taught thousands if not tens of thousands of students and you can say I heard it all, seen it all, but human beings are very tricky and I am sure I will gain new insights, (smiling) good ones. But then again what are bad insights? I guess all insights are good, depending on how I apply them, and yes I already knew that. I was just checking to see if you’re awake.

There are many that I could mention, which is my inspiration for my next book, but for now just a few thoughts. I have heard over and over again from my students that they wish they started training earlier when they were children and that they wish they finished many things that they started when they were younger. There are several clues to our human nature from this. For one, perseverance is not innate; it is learned or in my case teachable. So, this is one of my most important missions as a teacher is to teach the qualities of perseverance and tenacity to my students.

How is that possible? Well, before one can be tenacious, he/she must have fortitude, endurance; before one can persevere he/she must have strength and courage. One must understand the reasons why people quit things.

And, if you ask a thousand people why they have quit, they will give you a thousand different answers with the most popular answer being, “I don’t know.” For those who have put some thought into it, their answers will range from the most absurd to the most creative elaborations from their infinite imagination, the intellect. However, if you look deeply, there are two fundamental reasons – loss of interest and hardship.

There are many versions of why they lost interest and why it was so difficult and all of them are justifiable and reasonable. Nevertheless, the bottom line is that they have quit.

Most have learned the art of quitting from their early childhood when you (the parent) have enrolled them in piano lessons, but now they want to play the guitar which is actually okay as it is in the same discipline of music. So at least, that’s what we tell ourselves as parents. Then, the child wants to do martial arts, but now he wants to play football and that’s okay because at least they are doing something physical. So at least, that’s what we tell ourselves as parents.

As young children, they seek what is pleasurable and avoid things that are not pleasurable. This is why I might find my 6 year old nephew rubbing himself on the couch and when asked, “Why do you do that?” His answer is simple and in a way profound, “It feels good.” Profound? Because ultimately this is the state which we all seek – that state of purity, innocence, and happiness, often called heaven, nirvana, enlightenement.

But for now, we must grow to maturity and become adults. And being an adult, being mature means that we must learn to do the things that we don’t like to do, things which do not give us pleasure. We may even do them well and sometime very well — like taxes.

So, if we let the child decide, then they will be fickle and rightly so with so many things to do and so eager to do them all.

Then what is the answer?

You can’t just have them do one thing forever or can you? Actually that’s what makes people the best at something – look at Tiger Woods or better yet, me (with a smile). To clarify, it’s not just one thing, but one focus. Well, that’s highly unlikely and you don’t want to limit your child’s experiences. Then, what can you do?

How about setting smaller goals and timelines for example: if they want to play the guitar, then you make them promise that they will try it for one year whether they like it or not and at that time, you’ll re-evaluate whether the child wants to continue or not.

At least this way, they did not quit, but more importantly they don’t feel like a quitter and also learned to keep a promise. Also, they did not get stuck wasting time on something that they don’t like doing and it’s not their forte. This is why the martial arts are so perfect as it breaks down the art’s curriculum into small parts, the belt ranking system, that are more digestible.

Boy this has become a long winded answer, so I’ll try to wrap it up and you’ll just have to wait for my book to know the rest.

No matter how you disguise it, quitting is quitting, and it’s a learned behavior. As a child when they quit something, they don’t feel bad, they feel liberated, happy. It’s later on in their lives that this behavior impacts them negatively and is the cause of low self-esteem, lack of self-confidence, and self-destructive behavior.

Human beings cling to things that are familiar and stay away from things that are unfamiliar whether they are positive or negative has no bearing on their decision. We want more than anything – security. The fear of the unknown is far greater than the impending doom of self-destructive behavior. And, even when we know that what we are doing is not good for us, we will continue as that is what’s familiar. Their lives will continue to spin out of control and not knowing how to stop it or change it, their ego for the sake of self-preservation will convince them that it’s not their fault that their live are so messed up, but it’s everyone and everything else that’s is to blame.

KCC: We can’t change our past, so what are we to do now as adults?

CML: Quit! (laugh). There are so many things I want to share with you, my students, and the world. This is why I am relentless in my efforts to teach, teach, and then teach some more. With the help of some of my students, we will utilize the new technologies to disseminate my teachings and have it more readily available worldwide.

KCC: Okay Master Lee, but what do you want to teach?

CML: Whether you believe in God or not, our lives are in our own hands. And, if there is a God, we must be self-reliant for what kind of god would want a nagging, whining child. Our destiny lies within our own hands and it is up to us to make happen what we want to be like, what kind of life we want to live. Whether the glass half-full or half-empty, what you must remember is that it is the same glass of water and it’s up to the individual to decide.

The goal should be to do the best that we can in all that we do by constantly improving, strengthening, and educating ourselves towards betterment. That should be the goal of our lives, not “lets be a millionaires”. Money is a means to an end, not the end itself and usually it ruins everything of true value, the human spirit. So if you do not enjoy the journey of life and spend money accordingly, then you’ll have amassed a lot of wealth, spend much time and stress protecting it, some will literally bury it underground as they do not trust the banks, then die a rich, bitter, lonely man, only to leave all the wealth that you could not carry into heaven, to your children. Then they won’t be able to understand why people have to work so hard to make money and constantly complain about it and also can’t figure out why they are so miserable.

Earlier, I have defined two fundamental sources for quitting and both are within our control – boredom and difficulties. Grass is not greener on the other side; the grass is greenest where I step.

In order to maintain our interest in others and the things we do, we must first make ourselves interesting by constantly improving in all areas of our lives, reaffirming our purpose each and every day, crush the demon of apathy that lies deep within ourselves, and not live to enter heaven, but make this our heaven.

Then, we must fortify and strengthen all three elements of the self – mind, body and heart, keeping our spirit balanced and strong. With this renewed strength, we can now face any hardship and accept it as a challenge that stands in defiance of our growth, of our goal towards self-betterment.

I am not interested in living a long life; I want to live a full life. This is what I have learned from my life as a Hwarang and this is what I want to share with the world. I thank my teacher, my mentor, my father and most importantly the silence between the words that give everything meaning.

Hwarangdo Forever!

Interview with Chief Master Taejoon Lee – Part I

Tuesday, June 17th, 2008

Sitting astride his warhorse, the thirteen-year-old Hwarang let the weight of command settle across his shoulders. As the eldest son, he knew that not only his, but his family’s, future rested on the decisions he would make from then on. In true fashion of the warrior-poets who unified his land, he never questioned whether he could achieve greatness, or whether he would secure that future. The only question that burned from his gaze was how.

Taejoon LeeThirty years later, Taejoon Lee finds himself answering the question he posed to himself so long ago. With hundreds of rang do (students) under his direct tutelage, and thousands more internationally following the martial way, Susuk Kwanjangnim is poised to achieve a monumental feat.

The Kwan Chang Chronicles sat with Chief Master Lee to discuss his achievement, and get his reflections from thirty years of teaching Hwa Rang Do in the United States, and what he envisions for the coming years.

KCC: Susuk Kwanjangnim, what is the most vital aspect of your teaching? What one thing do you hope students take away from their training?

ML: When you look back into the history of the Hwarang and whom they were, their martial training was not just to develop skills for combat, they were life skills as well. Everything they did, be it raise a family, the arts, teach, heal, etc. was guided and congruent with how they lived as warriors.

In battle, there are no excuses. Failure was equivalent to dying. Now even though in our modern everyday lives, we normally don’t pay that high of a price for our failures, as modern warriors we need to be guided by that same philosophy. I always tell my students, “don’t be the exception, be exceptional”.

Now that being said, often in life we do fail and make mistakes. Once a mistake has occurred, there’s nothing you can do to change it – it’s in the past. But as warriors if we have faltered and still have the opportunity to live on, we must view that failure as an opportunity to learn and grow and continue moving forward with our new found wisdom.

Most people view failure or success as the only two possible outcomes for a venture. But there are many opportunities for personal growth as you work toward achieving your objective. Only focusing on the outcome can be dangerous, because it opens you up to temptation – to cheating your way to get to the end, cutting corners or even just becoming complacent.

But as warriors, the journey and how we conduct ourselves and what we gain during that journey is just as important. Every great warrior, every great leader shares an inherent dissatisfaction with status quo and a desire to challenge themselves, to become better people in the process of achieving one’s goals. As a result, the journey becomes even more important than arriving at your destination.

From international martial arts exhibitions and seminars, to private instruction where he teaches one-to-one, Master Lee has taught thousands of people Hwa Rang Do’s martial way. We asked him, then, what has the largest obstacle been to imparting the Hwarang philosophy to the public at large.

ML: In our western society, we have become conditioned and told that it is acceptable to avoid responsibility for ourselves. It’s even engrained in our legal system, where they make a distinction between premeditated murder and just murder… “crimes of passion” versus just crime. This conditions us to believe that there are times when we can avoid taking full responsibility for our own actions. This is ridiculous. Everything we do and don’t do, is our responsibility regardless of the circumstance!

This is my biggest challenge, but it is also my responsibility as a teacher to help everyone who walks into my dojang understand this. From the little tiger who forgets his sparring gear to the adult students not taking responsibility for their test material, everyone is accountable for their own actions. If a little tiger comes to the dojang without the necessary equipment, it’s not the parent’s responsibility, it’s the little tiger’s responsibility and he/she is the one who will be disciplined.

The encouraging part about my job is that as students progress to the higher levels of Tae Soo Do and into Hwa Rang Do, most do become more responsible and self-critical. It’s a great joy of mine to watch them mature and progress.

However, I also rarely acknowledge my students for these achievements, because I want them to improve for themselves, and not for the sake of pleasing me. It is very difficult for me to bottle up this silent pride for my students. There is nothing more I want to do than to hug them and tell them “great job”. But, I am reluctant to do this because I want them to be proud of themselves, while still never being satisfied and remain hungry for more.

KCC: How do you translate that concept to the dojang?

ML: Well, my life’s journey as a teacher has taught me quite a bit as you can imagine. Early on, I focused quite a bit on techniques, application and execution of Hwa Rang Do inside the dojang. While obviously, there is no one more strict on the proper execution of techniques than I, instilling my students with the desire to better themselves has taken precedent over anything else. I want my students to be able to be self-critical and stand up to the challenges in their lives, no matter the circumstance..

Now so you don’t’ misunderstand me, I have excellent students. They are the best! However, we must all strive to improve ourselves, our lives, our environment and those around us… until we reach our full potential.

That is what it means to be a Hwarang – a warrior.

As Hwarang, we don’t seek to improve to please others or win a prize or medal. Achieving one’s human potential means achieving and doing as much as you possibly can during your lifetime, with your God given strengths and overcoming any weaknesses or shortcomings.

If you are three feet tall, be the best three footer you can be. Don’t worry about those taller than you. Focus on being the best, period.

KCC: Besides teaching, how are you striving to reach your full potential?

ML: Fifty knuckle push-ups! (laughing) Just kidding. Over the past 15 years, I’ve been working to fulfill a dream of mine. It is to improve upon our Kumdo (the Korean version of Japanse Kendo) techniques. I have developed a new set of techniques to be added to the traditional mori, hori and son strikes. When I started, I did not know how I would do this, but I knew it was a goal worth striving for.

Constantly challenging myself with new dreams and goals is how I reach for my full potential. As long as I have new dreams, goals and ideas, my job is not done yet.

KCC: What were the obstacles in fulfilling your dream?

ML: This is changing one hundred years of tradition! I had the idea, but I couldn’t just introduce the concept. I had to set the foundation – I had to create the armor, and create the Hwarang Kum Sur (Hwa Rang Do sword techniques). This is the legacy that has been handed to me, which I must honor and respect by very carefully thinking it through.

This isn’t capricious, this is methodical. I had to be able to envision this change fifteen years out, to work on it, develop the techniques and train students in the new techniques.

KCC: So as you encourage and challenge your students . . .

ML: I continue to challenge myself. It is liberating to have achieved this, but I strove because the journey was important. And each of us should continue to do this in our lives. We train to afford ourselves very real challenges, to push ourselves and to grow. This is more than a formula, more than a set of numbers to add up and say “Ah! I have the answer!” No, this is not it. It is defining perfection, establishing goals, and then working until you’ve achieved them. No one is going to reach perfection. It is an impossibility. But in striving for perfection, in attempting to reach the infinite possibilities in all of us, THAT is where we experience growth!

I look at the Hwarang way of life, the philosophy of growth and achievement, and I want to share it with as many people as possible. Where else in our modern society does someone experience the challenges necessary to grow on a regular basis? Think about it. The characteristics you need to succeed in training – discipline, perseverance, awareness, balance – are the same characteristics you need to succeed in life.

Do Joo Nim once told me a story: A man wanted to climb a mountain, wanted to achieve something in his life. So he set out up the mountain. He worked and sweated, strained and struggled, but finally, he stood on the peak. He achieved it. The wind was cool, chilling him. The sun shone bright, and the colors of the mountain were bright and vivid. Slowly, he turned all the way around, looking out across the vast range. Do you know what he saw? More peaks.

This is life. This is our philosophy. This is our way. Once you have achieved something, earned it, worked at it, there are other peaks to climb. But you do so with the confidence that comes from having reached the first peak. And the converse is, those who never try to climb the mountain, who never reach the first peak, don’t know what is possible, don’t know about the other peaks, because they haven’t conquered themselves, conquered their fears and attempted anything at all. This is the Hwarang way. Once you know that you can achieve in here, once you see that discipline and practice, awareness and balance, that perseverance allow you to achieve, then what is there you cannot achieve in life?

KCC: Is this something you believe people can achieve by themselves?

ML: No. No one can do it alone. Everyone is in need of ongoing mentorship, including myself. I will be disciplining a student for some transgression, challenging them to help them learn and grow, and days later, Do Joo Nim, my teacher, would be disciplining me for the exact same thing! This just shows that we all need a teacher, a mentor, someone to help us become honest with ourselves and be self-critical. For most of us, being self-critical is very difficult, because most human beings have a very high opinion of themselves, and we often need someone to step in and point out where we are lacking integrity. That is why beyond teaching and training, I am also going to begin offering Life Coaching.

KCC: For students?

ML: For students. For non-students. For everyone. As I said before, the didn’t just train for combat, their martial training served as a compass for their lives. Through live coaching, Hwa Rang Do will be able to reach a portion of humanity, which would otherwise not benefit from our training as life’s warriors.

This may seem like a lofty goal, but I’ve yet to find anything else, which offers more of an opportunity for personal growth and achieving one’s potential, than Hwa Rang Do. Life coaching is yet another peak to climb, with many more to follow.

Since 30 years cannot be summarized into a few mere paragraphs, our interview with Chief Master Lee will be continued in the next issue of the Kwan Chang Chronicles – West Coast Hwa Rang Do Newsletter.